A new day has dawned, and all the models are now out of the oven cleaner.
The metal models that soaked in acetone for 3 months or more are now squeaky clean, and the test plastic models are completely unharmed. The next step is to prime the metal models and see if there is no nasty residue left on them that would prevent the primer from sticking (I sincerely hope there is none).
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Tuesday, May 29, 2012
Monday, May 28, 2012
Paint stripping pains
Once in a while our miniature painting hobby requires us to the unimaginable:
Take an old model, strip the paint, and paint it all over again.
I won't get into all the reasons as to why this is necessary, but once it comes to it, there are probably 300 different ways to do it, and every hobbyist will tell you that their way to strip paint is the best, and in the end unless you try it for yourself, you wont have a clue what really works and what doesn't.
In my case all the nice products people keep using to strip their miniatures are just not available. There is no simple green in Israel, no purple cleaning stuff, no pine-sol, or other fancy liquids people use to strip paint. All i have available is acetone (pure hardware store kind of acetone) and various household cleaning products.
In the past I used to stick my metal models in acetone, let them soak for a while, vigorously brush them, clean all nooks and crannies with a needle, and call the job done. I would often have little spots of paint left over, but I would just prime over it and ignore the fact that what I started with wasn't pristine clean (I know I have a problem, don't laugh :)
Just before I left on vacation 10 days ago, i stuck a unit of Cygnar long gunner in the acetone bath (as usual) and left them to soak. Now, these models are not something I painted in the past. They were primed by a friend of mine, and there was a little paint on them (cloaks and boots mostly), and I have no idea what kind of primer was used on them.
After a 10 day soak in acetone, the paint was barely touched, and even after vigorous scrubbing with an old toothbrush, there was just too much paint left on the models.
That is when I remembered that a friend of mine, who is a model airplane builder, mentioned that he uses a simple oven cleaner to strip his models.
All that was left to do was open the cupboard, take our oven cleaner, spray it all over the miniatures, and give them another soak. Imagine the surprise on my face two hours after i left the models to soak, when I saw all the paint just coming away from the models in strips. I took them all out, gave them a rinse, and they were 100% pristine clean.
Then I decided it's time to test the same oven cleaner on other miniatures. I have two Infinity models that a friend gave me a while back that were basecoated with automotive lacquer, and the acetone just wouldnt touch the paint. They were soaking in acetone for 3 months, and here is how they looked after that:
The two models were just full of paint that wouldn't come off.
I also decided to test the oven cleaner on some old plastic models to see what happens If i soak them in it for some time, and whether the plastic will be affected. The three plastic orcs in this picture soaked in engine degreaser for over 4 months. Only effect was that all glue bonds were destroyed, but the black primer was untouched:
Jar on the left and on the right have the same liquid. Left one got a red tint after some miniatures soaked in it. The jar on the right is the oven cleaner with the plastic models inside.
As soon as these two jars are tested for effects I will make sure to post an update.
For now here is a photo of the 6 long gunners that got the oven cleaner treatment:
Take an old model, strip the paint, and paint it all over again.
I won't get into all the reasons as to why this is necessary, but once it comes to it, there are probably 300 different ways to do it, and every hobbyist will tell you that their way to strip paint is the best, and in the end unless you try it for yourself, you wont have a clue what really works and what doesn't.
In my case all the nice products people keep using to strip their miniatures are just not available. There is no simple green in Israel, no purple cleaning stuff, no pine-sol, or other fancy liquids people use to strip paint. All i have available is acetone (pure hardware store kind of acetone) and various household cleaning products.
In the past I used to stick my metal models in acetone, let them soak for a while, vigorously brush them, clean all nooks and crannies with a needle, and call the job done. I would often have little spots of paint left over, but I would just prime over it and ignore the fact that what I started with wasn't pristine clean (I know I have a problem, don't laugh :)
Just before I left on vacation 10 days ago, i stuck a unit of Cygnar long gunner in the acetone bath (as usual) and left them to soak. Now, these models are not something I painted in the past. They were primed by a friend of mine, and there was a little paint on them (cloaks and boots mostly), and I have no idea what kind of primer was used on them.
After a 10 day soak in acetone, the paint was barely touched, and even after vigorous scrubbing with an old toothbrush, there was just too much paint left on the models.
That is when I remembered that a friend of mine, who is a model airplane builder, mentioned that he uses a simple oven cleaner to strip his models.
All that was left to do was open the cupboard, take our oven cleaner, spray it all over the miniatures, and give them another soak. Imagine the surprise on my face two hours after i left the models to soak, when I saw all the paint just coming away from the models in strips. I took them all out, gave them a rinse, and they were 100% pristine clean.
Then I decided it's time to test the same oven cleaner on other miniatures. I have two Infinity models that a friend gave me a while back that were basecoated with automotive lacquer, and the acetone just wouldnt touch the paint. They were soaking in acetone for 3 months, and here is how they looked after that:
The two models were just full of paint that wouldn't come off.
I also decided to test the oven cleaner on some old plastic models to see what happens If i soak them in it for some time, and whether the plastic will be affected. The three plastic orcs in this picture soaked in engine degreaser for over 4 months. Only effect was that all glue bonds were destroyed, but the black primer was untouched:
Jar on the left and on the right have the same liquid. Left one got a red tint after some miniatures soaked in it. The jar on the right is the oven cleaner with the plastic models inside.
As soon as these two jars are tested for effects I will make sure to post an update.
For now here is a photo of the 6 long gunners that got the oven cleaner treatment:
Sunday, March 25, 2012
Haven't posted in quite some time
I guess I lost some steam when it comes to miniature war-gaming, but this is about to change. The main problem was that I chose myself an army to play with that didn't really suit my play style. This is a common mistakes that a lot of people make when starting to get in to the miniature hobby, and I admit, I'm a newbie and I made all the newbie mistakes.
I did enjoy building and painting my Circle Orboros army, but the play style of Circle is definitely not for me, so exit Circle Orboros, enter Cygnar :)
This time I did a lot of research, and even test-played a few games, and i can way with a certain degree of confidence that Cygnar is the way to go for me.
The Cygnar battle box is already on the way, and once I start building it, the updates will follow.
I did enjoy building and painting my Circle Orboros army, but the play style of Circle is definitely not for me, so exit Circle Orboros, enter Cygnar :)
This time I did a lot of research, and even test-played a few games, and i can way with a certain degree of confidence that Cygnar is the way to go for me.
The Cygnar battle box is already on the way, and once I start building it, the updates will follow.
Friday, August 5, 2011
Shadowhorn Satyr pt. 3 - Finished and based
Sunday, June 26, 2011
Thus it begins
A few people told me that I should start a blog to showcase all the miniatures i assemble, paint, and rarely convert and modify.
Before kicking this off, just a few words about me. I'm currently 36 (some will say too old to play with toy soldiers but i say who cares), I've meddled with miniature war gaming on and off for the past 15 or so years, and now I'm back in the hobby after a longer off period (something like 5 years of not touching any paints of a paintbrush).
Projects I'm currently working on will hopefully be showcased on this blog, and to kick it off, here are some images of the old Warmachine miniatures i decided to practice on.


















Photos taken using Canon PowerShot A540 and a custom built light box :)
Before kicking this off, just a few words about me. I'm currently 36 (some will say too old to play with toy soldiers but i say who cares), I've meddled with miniature war gaming on and off for the past 15 or so years, and now I'm back in the hobby after a longer off period (something like 5 years of not touching any paints of a paintbrush).
Projects I'm currently working on will hopefully be showcased on this blog, and to kick it off, here are some images of the old Warmachine miniatures i decided to practice on.
Photos taken using Canon PowerShot A540 and a custom built light box :)
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